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 .410 for Gobblers? 
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Post .410 for Gobblers?
Anyone on the board ever harvest a gobbler with a .410? Is it a realistic option for a turkey gun? I ask because I'm having a tough time finding a larger gauge gun that my 9 year old son can shoot. Hard to find any kind of 28, and most youth 20's are too heavy and length of pull is too long. Trying to avoid cutting a gun down to miniature size for one, maybe two seasons. Thoughts?


Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:33 pm
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Are they legal for turkeys in VA? They aren't legal in many states anymore.


Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:38 pm
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Just went to the VDGIF website. No restrictions on .410s. Just on shot size - no larger the #2s.


Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:50 pm
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hello, a 4/10 gauge shotgun will do the trick on an old tom, however you must treat this caliber a little differently than the others, first you need to find some 3" no's 4 which is not an easy feet these days. then you need to pattern your gun, not many 4/10's come with a full choke and the maxium distance should not exceed 20 yards. i do not know of any choke tubes for the gun. now to suggest something that i never suggest to anyone :roll: have you considered a small cal. rifle with little or no recoil? i do not like the use of rifles by adults as i am a firm beleaver that if you cant call them in then let them walk. however i have used these with kids in the past. a nice scope helps them . just call them in close, no cheating :D

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Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:07 am
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I patterned my ol' Savage/Stevens single shot fixed full choke .410 the other year to see what she could do. With Remington 3" #6 she was good to 20 yards. After that it went to pieces. I was quiet suprised with the pattern at 15 and 20 yards though. Wish I had saved the target. Might have to take it back out and pattern again and post some information.

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Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:47 am
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I'm not looking to start an argument but if he is not physically able to handle a youth model 20 gauge yet then maybe he's not ready to tote a gun on a trip. I have a little boy who is always asking when he can go along to "shoot a turkey" and I keep telling him "when your big enough". I'm probably not going to let my son carry a gun on a turkey hunt until he is 11 or 12...but that's just my opinion. I know that every kid is different, but does a nine year old really know what he's accomplished if he happens to shoot a gobbler? I'm planning on taking my son along on some hunts to just get him introduced to the sport, hopefully hear or see a turkey and possibly to get him to sit still for 5 minutes at a time. I was eight years old before my dad let me tag along and it was at least 3 or 4 years after that before he would let me carry a gun.

Anyway, if you decide to take him, have him practice handling a gun at the range and shoot many shots from simulated hunting positions. I'm all about hunting and introducing kids to the sport but I think they need to be physically mature enough to handle a gun and emotionally mature enough to understand what it's all about.


Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:41 am
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I had the hair-brained idea of carrying my Grandfather's little .410 a couple times during the year! I patterned a 3" #6 shot and felt that it was good to about 15 yards. I may still try it! :roll:

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Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:20 am
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Post .410 for gobblers
I have several friends that have taken toms with a .410, one took his at 7 yards.
Thought about trying it myself for a challenge, but will probably just take my crossbow.
Gotta gettem' close either way. Prefer about a 12-16 yard shot.

barry

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Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:38 am
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I took my first 2 gobbler's with an old Iver Johnson .410.

Of course they were inside of 20 yards... but isn't that what it's all about anyway?


Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:41 pm
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King of Spring

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like any gun, spend some time punching holes in paper to see what it will do. i have a rossi .410/.22 combo...interchangeable barrels. .410 is full choke. i shot 3" 6's and 4's and learned 3 things.
1 - the magnum loads kick like a dang mule out of that little gun
2 - 6's better than 4's
3 - don't shoot over 20 yards

just my 2 cents

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Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:35 pm
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Last year I patterned two .410s with various shells looking for a load I felt comfortable for my 9 year old daughter to shoot a gobbler with. I felt pretty good with most of the loads out to 15 yards or so but after that they got pretty spotty.

I finally settled on an old Winchester single shot 16 for her to hunt with. Coupled with Remington 2 3/4 express #6 I feel confident at under 25 long paces if she can keep her mind in order and she gets to pull the trigger I will be toten a bird back to the truck.

I hope my daughter and I get to try the 16 gauge out saturday.

Did I say Im pumped for saturday!
iisabigone


Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:11 pm
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Turkenator, just the name Iver Johnson brings back soooo many memories. About the 410, a friend of mine has a pacemaker he kills a gobbler or two every year with a TC Contender. It comes down to the ability to get the turkey close enough.
Keep em Gobblin!
Struttinbird

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